Comments on: Security versus Democracy in America http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/01/security-versus-democracy-in-america/ Informed reflection on the events of the day Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.23 By: DC Two Weeks in Review: Obama Kills Osama! Victory! The War on Terror is Over! Let’s Think. « Jeffrey C. Goldfarb's Deliberately Considered http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/01/security-versus-democracy-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-7401 Sat, 14 May 2011 14:14:13 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=1526#comment-7401 […] raised important issues, reminding me of the sorts of observations and judgments of his compatriot, Martin Plot. We invaded a sovereign country, killed an unarmed man, apparently deciding it was better to get […]

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By: Michael Corey http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/01/security-versus-democracy-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-4346 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:01:48 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=1526#comment-4346 I’m not at all sure that concern about security is the source of the problem. (Can you explain what complete security is? I doubt that there is or ever has been complete security, although I understand that this has been used as a basis for grabbing more power).

The more fundamental issue seems to me to be the ever increasing power vested in the presidency by the presidents themselves above and beyond anything that was envisioned in the Constitution. Virtually all presidents cite a constitutional basis for expanding the power of the presidency, and most partisans tolerate it as long as it is his or her party’s president that is exercising the power. This thirst for power does erode democratic principles and ideals.

This past year, Bruce Ackerman raised concerns about the ultra-imperial presidency in his book “The Decline and Fall of the American Republic”; Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. popularized the “Imperial Presidency” term in his 1973 book; and Lord Acton may have articulated the issue more clearly in his often quoted insight that “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” We can look for reasons why it is happening here in the United States, but I suspect that the search for blame probably should begin with all of us individually. We tolerate it, and at times support it, and it continues to reoccur.

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By: vince carducci http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/01/security-versus-democracy-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-4335 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:38:01 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=1526#comment-4335 I must that I agree with this analysis. I would ground my comments on two authors: George Orwell and Carl Schmidt. In 1984, Orwell writes of the continual wars between Oceania and its two rivals Eurasia and Eastasia that their primary value was to promote continual anxiety among the domestic population, thereby making it easier to exert control under the guise of security. In the case of Schmidt, we’re talking about the state of exception as outlined in Political Theology. I have always felt that this was what in some measure the War on Terror under the Bush Administration was all about post 9/11. While Obama may have softened the rhetoric, the government under his watch doesn’t appear to have moved too far away from the practice.

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