Comments on: Gilad Shalit Comes Home http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/10/gilad-shalit-comes-home/ Informed reflection on the events of the day Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.23 By: Irit http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/10/gilad-shalit-comes-home/comment-page-1/#comment-19099 Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:45:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=8809#comment-19099 Nachman, thanks much for your comments and thoughts. I chose to look at the symbolic aspects of the discourse on Shalit’s return as they seem clearer to me in their power to mediate, reaffirm but also transgress the ‘conflict’ models as well as the Israeli identity complexities we are used to think with. Clear, many prisoners accused in terror attacks were terrorists. Unfortunately, some will also remain terrorists. I was sad to see coverage yesterday of a former terrorist encouraging school children to become shahids and am not naive to assume that now that Shalit is back and the gesture toward the Hamas is made, it will magically be bestowed upon us with the plea of forgiveness for all. But I am also not sure that we have to look for stories of ruthless terrorists on both sides to fortify our fear that nothing will change. We can indeed hope for memory-in-context and more than the victim’s narrative, and celebrate stories that show that individuals and groups on the Palestinian side think differently about their future. Then an op-ed piece like the one published yesterday in the NY times worrying that the release will encourge more terrorism and that Netanyahu will not make further compromise will have to take into account an infrmed public that imagines their home and habituating it differently.

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By: Irit http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/10/gilad-shalit-comes-home/comment-page-1/#comment-19098 Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:43:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=8809#comment-19098 Thank you Iddo, for taking the time to read and respond to the post. I find your perspective on turning Shalit into a symbol and the politics of symbols to be the most interesting and fruitful, also for further inquiry. To add on that, Shalit was made a military hero only around his release. The symbolization and memory work done by his family focused on rather different aspects: the fading, the demanding and the peaceful. The first two were manifested along the battle to gain support of his release, focused on (1) the danger that he’ll dissapear and die– taking the symbolism form the discourse on Ron Arad, which I did not make the blog-space to introduce. This “fading” danger was later replaced by the “Gilad is still alive” demand to return him home. Both have very little to do with him. (2) The ‘peaceful’ message: by publishing a story which Shalit wrote at age 11 about a whale and a fish who decide to play together and make peace instead of staying enemies (it later became clear that the story was heavily informed, or plagiarised, by another children’s tale). It will be interesting to see whether the hero symbol will remain on the level of appreciating his survival, or that there will be more information accumulated about Shalit’s ‘heroism’. Perhaps some of it will not be militeristic and nationalistic. I hope so.

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By: Iddo http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/10/gilad-shalit-comes-home/comment-page-1/#comment-19091 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:42:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=8809#comment-19091 Thanks for the thoughtful piece, Irit.

I would like to add something here that fascinates me. Shalit was returned as an Israeli hero. In his uniform, with Netanyahu, Barak, and every trapping of the state. But this is an outcome, obviously not his “natural” state. For a very long time, even while negotiations were taking place, it was far from clear whether the state will turn him into the symbol. Although there were fertile grounds in the Israeli imaginary landscape for his trasubstantiation from a relatively geeky-looking youngster into a symbol, it wasn’t automatic. Indeed, the work of symbolization was carried out, at times almost single-handedly, by his family. The political fight with the state, replete with demonstrations, processions, and appeals, was long, grueling, and highly uncertain. It is not long ago that the negotiations seemed impossible, and Shalit’s fate quite dim.

It is this aspect, that, for me, is most interesting. Without making him into a war-hero he was made into the focus of public ritual that united most of the Israeli population. If somebody would truly follow this story as a tale of a public representation, I expect we will learn a lot not only about Israeli and Palestinian politics, but about the politics of symbols.

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By: Nachman Ben-Yehuda http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/10/gilad-shalit-comes-home/comment-page-1/#comment-19083 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:43:00 +0000 http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/?p=8809#comment-19083 A very sensitive and captivating piece. Thank you, Irit, for your wise words. It was a fascinating read from where I am now (London). Like you, I share Gilad’s hope that peace will prevail.

Having said that, I feel the need to make some comments. One is that you write: “Palestinians accused in terrorist action.” Some of those Palestinians were not only “accused” – they freely admit and pride themselves on attacking, killing and hurting civilians. The reason I mention this is not only in order to make a CHESHBON (“Invoice”?) with some of the media and the squelching of the vile nature of some of the brutal attacks of some of the Palestinians, but to point out that there are many people in Israel who are appalled by this exchange. Were they willing to “sacrifice” Shalit? Probably so. However, since this was prevented (and I for one am absolutely delighted that it was prevented), one can hear loud voices requesting that Israel uses the death sentence for some Palestinians whose acts can be considered as equivalents to “war crime” or even to use the battlefield to kill specific Palestinians so that no demands can be made in the future for their release. While I hope that these two terrible options will not be pursued, there is a relevant something else that I feel the need to say. If we are to follow Gilad’s, and ours, hope for peace a “Morpheus syndrome” – that is squelching and repressing relevant information – should not be pursued. Good and ugly deeds, toxic pasts, on both sides need not be forgotten. If we are to pursue peace in a way that will not antagonize in a negative and angry fashion sections in the populations, both sides need to know what the real alternative to peace is – a continuation of a nasty, ugly and despicable conflict. Making real concessions for peace does not only mean geographical and demographical wheelings and dealings. It also means knowing and understanding the nasty acts that have been carried out in this conflict. Forgiveness will be nice, but no one needs to forgive if they do not feel like it. The minimum required is the ability and willingness to recognize and remember the past, the WHOLE past, and thus to be able to go along, live together knowing that the shadow of this past needs to loom over our heads if we want real peace. It is this shadow that will remind us – continuously – what the alternative to peace is.

I do want to end my comment by expressing, again, my gratitude and admiration to Irit’s heart-touching and sophisticated response. Thank you!

Nachman

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